the difference between what he did and what pelosi did to get the health care bill through, pelosi went through her caucus and broke every arm in the caucus that was giving her trouble and then made the announcement. boehner went out and made the announcement first then couldn't get his people. that's a leadership mistake. >> in that moment you have to concede, governor, she had it within -- >> i think boehner does have courage and i think he could be a good speaker. he's just not tough enough. >> i don't agree with that. >> results show. >> look into the crystal ball here for the next couple of days. and we're going to get your predictions for next year, but just over the next couple of days, based on what you heard here today from the senators and the raucous discussion with the house members, each of you, do you think the deal is going to happen and if it happens will it pass house and senate? >> there will be a deal. i'm a little pessimistic at the moment. i hope they can get over the cliff and avoid the january 1st cutoff. my hope is they can put something together as early as janu